Yes, it's mind boggling that the Honda engineers didn't design the 2nd row seat backs to fold flat and equally mind boggling that the seat backs won't lock in the forward tilt position. I'm wondering if I shouldn't have experimented with using 1x4 legs to make them a lot lighter. If you do build a seat removal jig, maybe consider using 1x4's for the legs and just add a short piece to double the thickness for the sawhorse brackets. But at my age and having pulled my back several times in the past, I'm determined not to pull my back removing those 70 lb seats from our Ody. Yes, a more involved process than I would like. Strangely enough I find the seats much easier to put back into the van than removing them-probably due to the fact that I am able to use my leg strength to lift them off the garage floor and set them down in the van without as much back effort. The seats are also bulky and the cabin is cramped so it is difficult if not impossible to remove them in an ergonomically correct fashion. Looks like the newer seats can only be stored upright (and slightly folded) thus taking up more room in the garage.ĭid not realize these things are that heavy-no wonder it takes so much effort to remove them. I wonder why the 2019 (and probably the 2018 and above) middle seats do not fold flat? What a pain! The center seats of our '99, '06, and our '15 do fold flat which allows them to be stored upright or with the front down on the ground or up in the air. Looks like the sliding track and wheels are from a barn door system. Very clever! I have three of the pulley lift systems hanging from the garage ceiling-they are bike storage devices-since we no longer have 3 bikes so I may repurpose one and make one of these systems.
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